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Update all stage object descriptions and release tags #1385
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Coping other action items from #1160 (comment)
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I agree with the first 4 points. For point 3, for awards and contracts, the array and object can have different titles/descriptions to match the stage and individual real-world object (award, contract). For planning and tender, the relationship is 1-1 between stage and "object" (if there is such an object - as mentioned, it is somewhat artificial), so it makes sense to simply use the same title/description in both. I also prefer wording 2, as it starts with familiar concepts, and then introduces "planning process" and "contracting process" which are a bit more OCDS-specific. I've made the following table from the proposal above, which I'll subsequently copy-edit.
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@JachymHercher I've made my edits. You can see them using the "edited" dropdown in the previous comment. A challenge is that OCDS can cover non-procurement contracts, but it is specialized for procurement. I've tried to use non-procurement-specific terms where it didn't introduce awkwardness. |
Thank you for the new issue. I've gone through your edits, my comments: |
i. I hadn't considered that alignment. In #1216 the content is:
For planning, it was:
then:
Unless I misunderstand "forecasting", this is not covered by OCDS, so I removed it/changed it to "budget planning". To avoid reference to procurement, I changed to "needs identification". For tender, it was:
then:
I changed it so that it was not specifically about a purchase (e.g. the market can bid on the sale of a state asset). (The latter is based on wording in Australian legislation.) I dropped the second half about estimated value, because I couldn't find wording that worked in a non-purchase context without being overly general, long or confusing, e.g. "the value of the items considered within the contracting process". We can refine the content further, but I think it is better to update the content added in #1216. ii. Instead of "it typically describes actions", how about "this information covers the period [before the publication of procurement documents]"? iii. Yes, changed. We use "prior to" rarely. iv. I wasn't clear on the intended meaning. My understanding: (1) There is an award, then there is a standstill period. The contracts array covers events that occur after BOTH. (2) There is an award, and no standstill period. The contracts array covers events after the award. What is the desired meaning? |
i. planning - your changes sound good. We will need to slightly update the definition of a planning process, I've made a placeholder in #866 (comment). ii. It's good, still precise and much more natural (the contracting and planning processes to speak about "actions" though, so we lose this link). I'd just leave "typically" there, same as we do for the other descriptions, so "typically covers" instead of "covers". |
i. I think b) is the best option. c) We don't use the word "business" much (not for any principled reason, however), and I think "bid opportunity" is clearer, because it references an action we do write regularly about. I think the reason for "potential" is that a PIN doesn't guarantee that the opportunity will become real (e.g. the buyer decides not to procure anything after all). ii. OK to re-add "typically" |
The PR is ready. I have also reflected the discussions leading to #1385 (comment) into the overview in #1385 (comment). Note below that
Concerning the two tasks in #1385 (comment),
I have reviewed https://standard.open-contracting.org/latest/en/primer/how/ and I don't think it needs changing (the descriptions are so general that they fit with also with the new descriptions). I have clarified in #1160 (comment) that we should double-check the documentation also once we are done with #1160.
'evaluationReports' is part of the PR. The PR also resolves #866 (comment). |
Great, and for your action item:
Is there anything to do? |
No. (The reasons were already given in #1385 (comment) but I didn't distinguish sufficiently which comment concerned which task - I've updated it to make it clearer.) |
This issue is split from #1160. Copying @JachymHercher's comment (originally at #1160 (comment)):
The issue started with
awardStatus
, moved to [block]Status in general, then we realized that we needed to better define [blocks]. I've started from the back, so below are some observations and a proposal on new definitions for the blocks.a.) I propose not to define the start of the planning process, because it would necessarily be very fuzzy (e.g. "After the first idea to purchase / fulfill a need.")
b.) Similarly, I propose not to define the end of the contracting process, because it is not necessary. The implicit approach of "publish as long as it makes sense" might be good enough. (If we wanted to go for it, it is actually a quite tricky question - I would propose "Until the end of any legal obligations stemming from the contract (e.g. maintenance, warranty, options, etc.)")
c.) For the border between planning/tender, I use "publication of the procurement documents", together with "typically". @jpmckinney in Update all status codelists #1160 (comment) proposed also "reservation of the budget", but I would rather avoid it, as I'm not sure how widely understood "reservation" is (versus proposal, approval and apportionment) and because we only have budget information in the
Planning
block.tenderPeriod
) to differ per lot. OCDS currently does not (not even with the lot extensions), but once it does this will interfere with the definition of the tender stage, beacuse it currently assumes that there is a single submission deadline for the entire contracting process. I suggest we deal with it when we get there.Current block descriptions
planning
: "Information from the planning phase of the contracting process. This includes information related to the process of deciding what to contract, when and how.",tender
: "The activities undertaken in order to enter into a contract.",awards
: "Information from the award phase of the contracting process. There can be more than one award per contracting process e.g. because the contract is split among different providers, or because it is a standing offer.",contracts
: "Information from the contract creation phase of the procurement process.",Proposed descriptions, wording 1
planning
,Planning
,relaseTag
code 'planning': Planning process information about, for example, the rationale for the procurement, the budget, forecasting and market research. Typically, this information comes from actions before the publication of the procurement documents.tender
,Tender
,relaseTag
code 'tender': Contracting process information about, for example, the items to be purchased, their value, procurement method, award criteria, and various deadlines. Typically, this information comes from actions starting with the publication of the procurement documents and ending with the bid submission deadline. Alternatively, this block is used during the planning process before the procurement documents are published, e.g. to give the market a general description of the purchase or a general estimate of the purchase's value.awards
,relaseTag
code 'award': Contracting process information about the award. Typically, this information comes from actions after the bid submission deadline and ending with the award itself or, if there is a standstill period, the end of the standstill period.contract
,relaseTag
code 'contract': Contracting process information about the contract and its implementation. Typically, this information comes from actions taken after the award and, if there was a standstill period, after the end of the standstill period.Proposed descriptions, wording 2
(This wording mentions the type of process later on. While not going "from general information to concrete information", I find it better readable.)
planning
,Planning
,relaseTag
code 'planning': Information about, for example, the rationale for the procurement, the budget, forecasting and market research. This information concerns the planning process and typically comes from actions before the publication of the procurement documents.tender
,Tender
,relaseTag
code 'tender': Information about, for example, the purchased items, their value, procurement method, award criteria, and various deadlines. This information can concern the contracting process or the planning process. In contracting processes, it typically comes from actions starting with the publication of the procurement documents and ending with the bid submission deadline. In planning processes, it typically comes from actions taken before the procurement documents are published, e.g. to give the market a general description of the purchase or a broad estimate of the purchase's value.awards
,relaseTag
code 'award': Information about the award. This information concerns the contracting process and typically comes from actions after the bid submission deadline and ending with the award itself or, if there is a standstill period, the end of the standstill period.contract
,relaseTag
code 'contract': Information about the contract and its implementation. This information concerns the contracting process and typically comes from actions taken after the award and, if there was a standstill period, after the end of the standstill period.In my comment above, I've clarified that bid submission falls into the tender stage and not the award stage, as discussed above. Furthermore, I've added alternative wordings and clearer identification of which blocks, fields and codes should change. The comment now covers answers to questions 1-3 in #1160 (comment).
Questions 1-3 are copied here:
Planning
,Tender
,Awards
andContracts
as well as the corresponding values in https://standard.open-contracting.org/latest/en/schema/codelists/#release-tag so that they take into account the start and end points of each stage and thus avoid overlaps. We can also standardize the wording.The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: