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GOV Proposal: Create A Policy For Handling Invitations to Collaborate #57
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Thank you for this issue: Regarding the approval, I think core developers, council members, and other people that are officially affiliated with sktime should require an approval by the community council for collaboration with a third party at least under the following circumstances:
I think in this case transparency is not enough and we should go a step further to avoid any conflicts etc. Open question
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For reference, adding the summary of our discussion at the Aug 15 council meeting: https://github.com/sktime/community-org/blob/main/community_council/previous_meetings/20230815-meeting.md |
summary of my opinion below. Regarding the general policy:
Regarding what the policy should be:
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For comparison, here is Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest This is highly relevant as "neutrality" is also part of |
Here's another interesting question: if we take the wikipedia model at face value, does this tell us something about the relation of algorithm owners and role holders? Let's consider the case of an academic who wants to promote their algorithm. We cannot directly generalize wikipedia entirely, as such an academic would naturally be the primary maintainer of their algorithm - but maybe they can't be involved about decisions like listing, curation, or have lower priority on docstring decisions (e.g., "the most advaned algorithm to do X!") Also interesting, the section on "paid editing" in wikipedia. |
Here's my comments on the specific proposal by @JonathanBechtel. General comment: rules should be actionable, with clear checkable conditions - i.e., it should be easy to verify when conditions are met or not, and what the action is. The further away we are from that, the higher the risk of arbitrary decision making. This is imo especially important for rules that have penalties as consequences. We do not hope to invoke them, but when we have to, it's important they are "robust" in the above sense, both from a moral/justice and from an applicability standpoint.
Morally, agree - although how do we make that distinction, process-wise? How can it be checked? Or is this more a general policy line? As a side note, the current statements on the Open Collective donation tiers do mix the two. These are old - 2020 or 2021 - so we may want to rethink them. As said I agree with your rationale, @JonathanBechtel.
Hm, agreed - this is perhaps the interesting line, as it separates use of from control of. Re general comment - how do we distinguish this? The lines can be blurry. E.g., what about co-branding of the kind "we use sktime", or listing a company as a user in our testimonials?
Agreed. I think this is implied by our "neutrality" policy. The second kind is a slippery slope towards turning into [insert any recent bad example here].
Hm, I don't entirely agree with this.
I think it's important to think about process here to ensure fairness of opportunities, especially about broadcasting the opportunity. E.g., if the request comes via direct message to one person; or, sent to the sktime council email; or, at a job address but clearly with the expectation to represent sktime, etc. If the initial contact is already rerstricted, is it really "volunteering" if it wasn't broadcast to [scope to be defined]?
Agreed, CoI handling is important. Although the CoC has some provisions on this already (see there).
See my general comment again - I agree morally, but I feel the conditions on what "this" exactly is are unclear. Examples of what would be considered a violation are important for this, as well as a more precise statement on scope, expected behaviour, etc. |
I believe that what would happen most often, which would be that a dev is consulting for a company to use sktime as a tool, should be out of scope for this. I understand everyone agrees with this, but I was not completely certain from reading the above. Other cases where sktime is contributed to through the express interest of a paying third party should go through approval and benefit the project economically. Nevertheless, I think this will be rare. |
SKTime has received inquiries recently about collaborations that are commercial in nature, and we want to have a clear policy on how they should be handled in the future.
This is a suggested set of policies on how they ought to be processed, as discussed at the SKTime Community Council Meeting on 08/15/2023.
The primary points are as follows:
This is meant to be a template, and not a final say in the matter.
Additional issues to consider are the details of how such issues will be delivered to the SKTime organization, and what the official communication channels will be.
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