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Model does not consider non-ergodicity #6

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lucadellanna opened this issue May 23, 2019 · 3 comments
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Model does not consider non-ergodicity #6

lucadellanna opened this issue May 23, 2019 · 3 comments

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@lucadellanna
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Tesla might post great 2023 numbers but, if it bankrupts on the way there, its (current) stock goes to $0.

The current price of CDS imply a >40% chance of bankruptcy over the next 5 years.

I do not see it priced at all in your model.

A good way to implement it would be to take the share price as computed from 2023 operations and to weigh it with a 40% possibility of having it stuck to $0.

@ascott5
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ascott5 commented May 23, 2019

I agree that y-o-y cash needs aren't adequately addressed. If a metric like EBITDA R&D is going to be used, more attention needs to be paid to FCF.

@jacobllcc
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Current prices Tesla anything are not necessarily accurate. The question is if they will go bankrupt. The way I see it, and wouldn't be surprised if ARK does too, is that Tesla has ample opportunity to raise capital at attractive rates from a suite of investors, and this would be welcomed because it could increase growth.

@lucadellanna
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What you write is accurate, but should be filed under "bull case".

The whole point of the "bear case" is to consider what could go wrong.

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